<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <pre wrap=""><div class="moz-txt-sig">Message: 2 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:04:08 +0100 From: Karl Podesta <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kpodesta@Redbrick.DCU.IE"><kpodesta@Redbrick.DCU.IE></a> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bioclusters@bioinformatics.org">bioclusters@bioinformatics.org</a> Subject: Re: [Bioclusters] Informal Survey Reply-To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bioclusters@bioinformatics.org">bioclusters@bioinformatics.org</a> On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:24:37AM -0400, Timothy E. Miller wrote: </div></pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"> <pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Well, since that accidentally went public, I'll add that "most bang <span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>for least currency" should also take into account people/management <span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>resource costs as well as simple hardware costs. <span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span> <span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Saving US$10k on hardware only to require having to hire an extra <span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>full-time person to continually manage the poor quality gear is <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>NOT<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> <span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>a bargain by any stretch of the imagination. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> [snip] > Interesting whether 'management resource costs' would extend to buying > a subscription to a magazine for their employees, in the context of > Douglas's posted survey. The last time my employer sent me to a course was October 1996, at IBM in London (I was sysadmin for a 64-node SP2). He was so tight with the money that I couldn't afford a hotel, and stayed in a youth hostel (Rotherhide). It was nice, and I enjoyed myself, but would've preferred that the decision came from ideology, rather than out of economic necessity. A magazine? I can't get USENIX/SAGE membership... -- JONATHAN B. HOREN UNIX SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATOR E: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:horen@mail.iucc.ac.il">horen@mail.iucc.ac.il</a> Inter-University Computation Center T: +972-(0)3-640-5203 Tel-Aviv University F: +972-(0)3-640-9118 Ramat-Aviv 69978 Israel </pre> </body> </html>