[Bioclusters] LSF vs SGE

[Ron Chen]

IMO, Platform is not that friendly. They like to
spread FUD about other products, e.g. They said that
PBS can't handle over 5000 jobs, and someone told me
that they said similar things about SGE.

(In fact, since LSF is not free, they should compare
LSF with PBSPro. And also, I started using SGE from
the very beginning, and I know that even early
versions of SGE can handle many more jobs than that!)

http://www.beowulf.org/pipermail/beowulf/2001-October/001486.html
http://bioinformatics.org/pipermail/bioclusters/2001-October/000035.html

Also, both PBS and SGE follow DRMAA, but Platform
pushes NPI -- the LSF API as the "standard".

Do you think we should support these kind of
companies?

 -Ron

--- Steve Pittard <wsp@emory.edu> wrote:
> 
> LSF vs. SGE
> 
> We've been using Platform LSF to manage our
> BLAST/HMMSEARCH
> cluster for the past year. We've made the cut over
> to Sun Grid Engine and are currently completing
> stress testing 
> after which we will use SGE exclusively. Until then
> we 
> are running LSF and SGE in parallel (no pun
> intended) though 
> our underlying Perl programs refer to enviroment
> varibles
> making it possible for the cluster to use one or the
> packages with just a quick change. In this fashion
> we
> can get back quickly to LSF if SGE is having
> problems.
> 
> I think LSF is an excellent product with lots of
> tunability (
> is that a word ?) and I'm pleased with their support
> of the
> product. None of my questions to Platform tech
> support have
> gone unanswered. On the other hand I wasn't at all
> pleased 
> last year when we shelled out a premium price per
> CPU only
> to find that a mere two months later the price had
> dropped
> to a quarter of what we paid. Frankly I felt price
> gouged.
> Bottom line - make sure you are getting the best
> price
> possible if you go with LSF. If you are buying from 
> a cluster provider (e.g. MiroWay) they usually
> negotiate
> the best price for your environment but make sure
> you check 
> it out.
> 
> SGE is doing the job thus far and most of the
> questions I've
> had were answerable via the internet and the support
> forum.
> If money weren't an issue (when isn't it ?) I would
> renew
> LSF since we've gotten good performance data from it
> and
> know what to expect in terms of functionality. But
> since 
> budget money is tight this year I'm compelled to use
> free 
> software where possible.
> 
> 
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