--Apple-Mail-4--733856793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > In my hands, 2.8 GHz Pentium IV Xeon matches a 1.7 GHz POWER4+ (the > G5's big brother) at almost every genomics code I've thrown at it, so > I'll believe you when I see some numbers, and not from Apple's website > :-) I agree but the processors are already past the 1.7 g4. I was merely saying that for what we are doing it is fast enough. I had thought of mentioning that, but there's almost no commercial support for Linux on PPC by independent software vendors. It seems a little pointless to me - if you're going to run Linux, you might as well run it on the best supported platform, which is still x86. True but I was putting this out as a proof in principle that Linux can run on PPC I'd like to hear more, because I don't believe it. Can you power cycle a crashed node remotely? What sort of remote console do you have? Can you do everything you need to through a command line as well as a GUI? I know GUIs are friendly, but when your cluster gets large you get tired of clicking buttons *really* quickly. Your requirements are probably different from mine, though. You can admin remotely the tools are included with panther or jaguar. As far as I know the remote capability is the same as if you are physically present but I cannot say for sure. Yes you can use command line for everything. you are right that some of this depends on scale. you should also take a look at "big mac" at Virginia tech. A cluster of 1200 g5's that is the 3rd fastest supercomputer in the world. Mike Michael D. Chute BSL-3 Lab Manager Naval Medical Research Center Biological Defense Research Directorate Suite 1N29 503 Robert Grant Ave Silver Spring, MD 20910 Voice: 301-319-7529 Fax: 301-319-7513 On Mar 5, 2004, at 11:33 AM, Tim Cutts wrote: --Apple-Mail-4--733856793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII <excerpt>In my hands, 2.8 GHz Pentium IV Xeon matches a 1.7 GHz POWER4+ (the G5's big brother) at almost every genomics code I've thrown at it, so I'll believe you when I see some numbers, and not from Apple's website :-) </excerpt> I agree but the processors are already past the 1.7 g4. I was merely saying that for what we are doing it is fast enough. <color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param>I had thought of mentioning that, but there's almost no commercial support for Linux on PPC by independent software vendors. It seems a little pointless to me - if you're going to run Linux, you might as well run it on the best supported platform, which is still x86. </color> True but I was putting this out as a proof in principle that Linux can run on PPC <color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param> I'd like to hear more, because I don't believe it. Can you power cycle a crashed node remotely? What sort of remote console do you have? Can you do everything you need to through a command line as well as a GUI? I know GUIs are friendly, but when your cluster gets large you get tired of clicking buttons *really* quickly. Your requirements are probably different from mine, though.</color> You can admin remotely the tools are included with panther or jaguar. As far as I know the remote capability is the same as if you are physically present but I cannot say for sure. Yes you can use command line for everything. you are right that some of this depends on scale. you should also take a look at "big mac" at Virginia tech. A cluster of 1200 g5's that is the 3rd fastest supercomputer in the world. Mike Michael D. Chute BSL-3 Lab Manager Naval Medical Research Center Biological Defense Research Directorate Suite 1N29 503 Robert Grant Ave Silver Spring, MD 20910 Voice: 301-319-7529 Fax: 301-319-7513 On Mar 5, 2004, at 11:33 AM, Tim Cutts wrote: --Apple-Mail-4--733856793--