[Biococoa-dev] BCSequence class cluster

Alexander Griekspoor mek at mekentosj.com
Sat Jan 8 11:09:03 EST 2005

Koen, I forgot, do you want to send an invitation to these two people 
at CocoaDev to see if they might be interested in helping with the 
framework, or at least in the discussions?

Op 8-jan-05 om 16:42 heeft Koen van der Drift het volgende geschreven:

> On Jan 8, 2005, at 8:36 AM, Alexander Griekspoor wrote:
>> Yes, and I'm afraid that although it would be informative to have 
>> others mix in the situation, I'm afraid it will lead to more 
>> discussion but less decisions. I think we should be careful with 
>> dropping the ball somewhere else with a simple "what do you think?" I 
>> would propose to invite people to have a look that we already know 
>> and ideally are both in Biology and Cocoa/BioX projects. We all know 
>> a few people like that I guess.
>> Look at the impact that the involvement of Charles has!
>> For example, I could invite Serge Cohen (Serge if you're reading 
>> this, I'll let you know why I send you this email ;-) to share his 
>> opinion (he's somewhat more from the informatics than from the bio 
>> side in contrast to most of us), or I could ask a guy from Apple I 
>> met at the WWDC if he has suggestions. If we all do that, I think it 
>> would result in more constructive discussions than simply asking on 
>> cocoa-dev.
> I think that is a really good idea, Alex. Since all of us have a 
> science background, and not an programming background, it could well 
> be that we completely miss an important issue, or make things too 
> complicated. We all know how much we are struggling with finding the 
> most usable design for BCSequence et al. Although it is good to think 
> of the user's approach, I also think we need to have a solid base, 
> that we can build all our ideas on top of. As soon as we have the 
> base, adding biology and chemistry extensions shouldn't be that 
> difficult anymore. One other thing would be alignment coding. This has 
> been done by many other programmers, and we shouldn't waste our time 
> and efforts by trying to reinvent the wheel. Of course we have to do 
> thing the ObjC way, not just blindly copying some cool approach from 
> one of the other BioX projects.
> Regarding new developers, a quick search for biology/molecule on the 
> CocoaDev users list shows a few names: Charles (we all know him by now 
> :),  Julan Blow (http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?JulianBlow), and 
> Todd Harris (http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?ToddHarris). We could 
> see they are interested to join. On the other hand, more developers -> 
> more opinions -> longer discussions -> less coding :)
> cheers,
> - Koen.
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