From schristley at mac.com Mon May 18 19:34:23 2009 From: schristley at mac.com (Scott Christley) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:34:23 -0700 Subject: [Biococoa-dev] license again Message-ID: Hello all, Well as I mentioned before, I've been working to get BioCocoa provided with Debian/Ubuntu automatically. I've been working with the debian- med group. Anyways, they pointed out a license issue, but I misunderstood the complete extent. I thought it was just an issue that a couple of files had some funky licensing requirements which we got cleaned up, but in fact Debian considers the Creative Commons V2.5 license to be non-free. Now this doesn't completely prevent us from working with Debian, because we can be put into the non-free repository, but I didn't think this was the intent of BioCocoa as it really prevents it from being broadly distributed. There is a newer Creative Commons V3.0 license which Debian does consider to be free; however, there is apparently a conflict between CC v3.0 and the GPL which doesn't allow them to be mixed. What a pain huh?! One of the Debian maintainers pointed me to this where Creative Commons themselves suggest not to use their license for software. http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Can_I_use_a_Creative_Commons_license_for_software.3F So the question I have, is there a specific reason for CC v2.5? The switch occurred with V2.0 before my time, so I don't know if there was a specific reason. Do we have any proprietary software that is using BioCocoa? I'm a GNU fan myself, so I consider the LGPL to be good, but there is also the BSD licenses which are very lenient. Let me know your thoughts. thanks Scott From charles.parnot at gmail.com Mon May 18 20:13:44 2009 From: charles.parnot at gmail.com (Charles Parnot) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 17:13:44 -0700 Subject: [Biococoa-dev] license again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have contributed some code, and for my part, LGPL or BSD licenses would work fine. I would tend to prefer BSD as it just removes headaches down the road. charles On May 18, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Scott Christley wrote: > Hello all, > > Well as I mentioned before, I've been working to get BioCocoa > provided with Debian/Ubuntu automatically. I've been working with > the debian-med group. Anyways, they pointed out a license issue, > but I misunderstood the complete extent. I thought it was just an > issue that a couple of files had some funky licensing requirements > which we got cleaned up, but in fact Debian considers the Creative > Commons V2.5 license to be non-free. Now this doesn't completely > prevent us from working with Debian, because we can be put into the > non-free repository, but I didn't think this was the intent of > BioCocoa as it really prevents it from being broadly distributed. > > There is a newer Creative Commons V3.0 license which Debian does > consider to be free; however, there is apparently a conflict between > CC v3.0 and the GPL which doesn't allow them to be mixed. What a > pain huh?! One of the Debian maintainers pointed me to this where > Creative Commons themselves suggest not to use their license for > software. > > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Can_I_use_a_Creative_Commons_license_for_software.3F > > > So the question I have, is there a specific reason for CC v2.5? The > switch occurred with V2.0 before my time, so I don't know if there > was a specific reason. Do we have any proprietary software that is > using BioCocoa? > > I'm a GNU fan myself, so I consider the LGPL to be good, but there > is also the BSD licenses which are very lenient. > > Let me know your thoughts. > > thanks > Scott > > > _______________________________________________ > Biococoa-dev mailing list > Biococoa-dev at bioinformatics.org > http://www.bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/biococoa-dev -- OpenMacGrid Help science move fast forward: http://www.macresearch.org/openmacgrid Charles Parnot charles.parnot at gmail.com From mekentosj at gmail.com Tue May 19 02:07:46 2009 From: mekentosj at gmail.com (Alexander Griekspoor) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 07:07:46 +0100 Subject: [Biococoa-dev] license again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8f2fa3f0905182307k2eb307f4y1435323e49460b6b@mail.gmail.com> Same here. I'd strongly be in favor of BSD. Best wishes, Alex On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Charles Parnot wrote: > I have contributed some code, and for my part, LGPL or BSD licenses would > work fine. I would tend to prefer BSD as it just removes headaches down the > road. > > charles > > > On May 18, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Scott Christley wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Well as I mentioned before, I've been working to get BioCocoa provided >> with Debian/Ubuntu automatically. ?I've been working with the debian-med >> group. ?Anyways, they pointed out a license issue, but I misunderstood the >> complete extent. ?I thought it was just an issue that a couple of files had >> some funky licensing requirements which we got cleaned up, but in fact >> Debian considers the Creative Commons V2.5 license to be non-free. ?Now this >> doesn't completely prevent us from working with Debian, because we can be >> put into the non-free repository, but I didn't think this was the intent of >> BioCocoa as it really prevents it from being broadly distributed. >> >> There is a newer Creative Commons V3.0 license which Debian does consider >> to be free; however, there is apparently a conflict between CC v3.0 and the >> GPL which doesn't allow them to be mixed. ?What a pain huh?! ?One of the >> Debian maintainers pointed me to this where Creative Commons themselves >> suggest not to use their license for software. >> >> >> >> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Can_I_use_a_Creative_Commons_license_for_software.3F >> >> >> So the question I have, is there a specific reason for CC v2.5? ?The >> switch occurred with V2.0 before my time, so I don't know if there was a >> specific reason. ?Do we have any proprietary software that is using >> BioCocoa? >> >> I'm a GNU fan myself, so I consider the LGPL to be good, but there is also >> the BSD licenses which are very lenient. >> >> Let me know your thoughts. >> >> thanks >> Scott >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biococoa-dev mailing list >> Biococoa-dev at bioinformatics.org >> http://www.bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/biococoa-dev > > -- > OpenMacGrid > Help science move fast forward: > http://www.macresearch.org/openmacgrid > > Charles Parnot > charles.parnot at gmail.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biococoa-dev mailing list > Biococoa-dev at bioinformatics.org > http://www.bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/biococoa-dev > > -- **************************************************** ** Alexander Griekspoor PhD ** **************************************************** mekentosj.com Papers - Your Personal Library of Science 2007 Winner of the Apple Design Awards Best Mac OS X Scientific Solution http://www.mekentosj.com/papers **************************************************** From koenvanderdrift at gmail.com Tue May 19 06:12:19 2009 From: koenvanderdrift at gmail.com (Koen van der Drift) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 06:12:19 -0400 Subject: [Biococoa-dev] license again In-Reply-To: <8f2fa3f0905182307k2eb307f4y1435323e49460b6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f2fa3f0905182307k2eb307f4y1435323e49460b6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That's ok for me too. - Koen. On May 19, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Alexander Griekspoor wrote: > Same here. I'd strongly be in favor of BSD. > Best wishes, > Alex From tony at bcihealthsearch.com Wed May 20 10:41:49 2009 From: tony at bcihealthsearch.com (Tony Pietrzak) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:41:49 -0500 Subject: [Biococoa-dev] Healthcare Staffing Solutions Message-ID: <32844eb48f8072492b5e408e001a69f9@bcihealthsearch.com> Hello, I hope 2009 is off to a good start for you and your firm! I'm with BCI -- a recruiting firm that specializes in providing search and staffing solutions to healthcare, pharmaceutical, biotech, life science and venture capital/financial clients. BCI also has a division that focuses solely on staffing for temporary/consulting roles. Given the current economic climate, temporary staffing can provide extremely cost-effective solutions for our clients. We have a deep candidate pool. 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URL: From koenvanderdrift at gmail.com Sun May 31 09:05:09 2009 From: koenvanderdrift at gmail.com (Koen van der Drift) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:05:09 -0400 Subject: [Biococoa-dev] ssh access - again Message-ID: <1F70ABFB-CFCD-4192-9625-DAEDD29B7569@gmail.com> All, I tried to check out the latest revision from BioCocoa, but again hit my head against the ssh login mess. When I try to access either the ftp site, or the svn repository (using svnX), I am asked for my password, which I apparently do not remember (*shame*). Is there any way to reset it? I did replace my HD a while ago, so some info regarding keys may have gone lost. Thanks, - Koen. From schristley at mac.com Sun May 31 13:00:23 2009 From: schristley at mac.com (Scott Christley) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:00:23 -0700 Subject: [Biococoa-dev] ssh access - again In-Reply-To: <1F70ABFB-CFCD-4192-9625-DAEDD29B7569@gmail.com> References: <1F70ABFB-CFCD-4192-9625-DAEDD29B7569@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Koen, You are a Mac guy, the KeyChain Access app is your friend :-) I blissfully forget my passwords all the time. Anyways, your password is for login into bioinformatics.org, so they seem to have some mechanism for recovering or changing it. https://www.bioinformatics.org/account/login.php Hopefully that will work for you, if you are still having problems then you might have to email them. Also you can always access the source code through anonymous SVN, though it won't let you commit any changes. If you get your password figured out, I can help if you want to generate new key files. cheers Scott On May 31, 2009, at 6:05 AM, Koen van der Drift wrote: > All, > > I tried to check out the latest revision from BioCocoa, but again > hit my head against the ssh login mess. When I try to access either > the ftp site, or the svn repository (using svnX), I am asked for my > password, which I apparently do not remember (*shame*). Is there any > way to reset it? I did replace my HD a while ago, so some info > regarding keys may have gone lost. > > > Thanks, > > - Koen. > > _______________________________________________ > Biococoa-dev mailing list > Biococoa-dev at bioinformatics.org > http://www.bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/biococoa-dev From koenvanderdrift at gmail.com Sun May 31 13:33:57 2009 From: koenvanderdrift at gmail.com (Koen van der Drift) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:33:57 -0400 Subject: [Biococoa-dev] ssh access - again In-Reply-To: References: <1F70ABFB-CFCD-4192-9625-DAEDD29B7569@gmail.com> Message-ID: Luckily I do remember my bioinformatics.org password, and indeed can just checkout the code in the terminal. So I am good to go :) Eventually I would like to reset my keys somehow, so I can commit changes. cheers, - Koen. On May 31, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Scott Christley wrote: > Hey Koen, > > You are a Mac guy, the KeyChain Access app is your friend :-) I > blissfully forget my passwords all the time. > > Anyways, your password is for login into bioinformatics.org, so they > seem to have some mechanism for recovering or changing it. > > https://www.bioinformatics.org/account/login.php > > Hopefully that will work for you, if you are still having problems > then you might have to email them. Also you can always access the > source code through anonymous SVN, though it won't let you commit > any changes. > > If you get your password figured out, I can help if you want to > generate new key files. > > cheers > Scott > > On May 31, 2009, at 6:05 AM, Koen van der Drift wrote: > >> All, >> >> I tried to check out the latest revision from BioCocoa, but again >> hit my head against the ssh login mess. When I try to access either >> the ftp site, or the svn repository (using svnX), I am asked for my >> password, which I apparently do not remember (*shame*). Is there >> any way to reset it? I did replace my HD a while ago, so some info >> regarding keys may have gone lost. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Koen. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biococoa-dev mailing list >> Biococoa-dev at bioinformatics.org >> http://www.bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/biococoa-dev > From schristley at mac.com Sun May 31 14:54:13 2009 From: schristley at mac.com (Scott Christley) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:54:13 -0700 Subject: [Biococoa-dev] ssh access - again In-Reply-To: References: <1F70ABFB-CFCD-4192-9625-DAEDD29B7569@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59DAD8BC-129C-438C-82C8-46AAE130BEF0@mac.com> You can still commit changes without keys, it will just ask you for your password (sometimes multiple times which can be confusing). The keys are just a convenience to avoid typing your password all the time. cheers Scott On May 31, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Koen van der Drift wrote: > Luckily I do remember my bioinformatics.org password, and indeed can > just checkout the code in the terminal. So I am good to go :) > > Eventually I would like to reset my keys somehow, so I can commit > changes. > > cheers, > > - Koen. > > > On May 31, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Scott Christley wrote: > >> Hey Koen, >> >> You are a Mac guy, the KeyChain Access app is your friend :-) I >> blissfully forget my passwords all the time. >> >> Anyways, your password is for login into bioinformatics.org, so >> they seem to have some mechanism for recovering or changing it. >> >> https://www.bioinformatics.org/account/login.php >> >> Hopefully that will work for you, if you are still having problems >> then you might have to email them. Also you can always access the >> source code through anonymous SVN, though it won't let you commit >> any changes. >> >> If you get your password figured out, I can help if you want to >> generate new key files. >> >> cheers >> Scott >> >> On May 31, 2009, at 6:05 AM, Koen van der Drift wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> I tried to check out the latest revision from BioCocoa, but again >>> hit my head against the ssh login mess. When I try to access >>> either the ftp site, or the svn repository (using svnX), I am >>> asked for my password, which I apparently do not remember >>> (*shame*). Is there any way to reset it? I did replace my HD a >>> while ago, so some info regarding keys may have gone lost. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> - Koen. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Biococoa-dev mailing list >>> Biococoa-dev at bioinformatics.org >>> http://www.bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/biococoa-dev >> >