[Biodevelopers] Re: Biodevelopers digest, Vol 1 #140 - 3 msgs

[Allen Henry]

My comment about the not supporting the older browsers
and OS's is more of note of caution not to try to
support everything.

Find out what is most used, rank the browsers, and
prioritize accordingly.

Hope this helps


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>    1. Re: Fonts (Alex Milowski)
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>    3. Re: Fonts (Martin Kucej)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:40:00 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Biodevelopers] Fonts
> From: Alex Milowski <alex at milowski.com>
> To: biodevelopers at bioinformatics.org
> Reply-To: biodevelopers at bioinformatics.org
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> 
> On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 04:57 AM, Martin
> Kucej wrote:
> 
> >> From what I learned, the best is to set your font
> > in pixels (px) not in points (pt). The latter is
> > interpreted very differently. See this page below:
> >
> >
>
http://developer.apple.com/internet/fonts/fonts_gallery.html
> 
> Points are resolution independent.  Pixels depend on
> your screen 
> resolution.
> 
> A point is roughly:
> 
>     1 pica point = 0.35146 mm
> 
> You really should never use pixels as you never know
> the display 
> resolution.
> 
> Alex Milowski                FAX: (707) 598-7649    
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>   alex at milowski.com
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> "The excellence of grammar as a guide is
> proportional to the paucity of 
> the
> inflexions, i.e. to the degree of analysis effected
> by the language
> considered."
> 
> Bertrand Russell in a footnote of Principles of
> Mathematics
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:50:23 +0100
> To: biodevelopers at bioinformatics.org
> From: David Leader <d.leader at bio.gla.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Biodevelopers] Re: Fonts (was "Help on
> Testing")
> Reply-To: biodevelopers at bioinformatics.org
> 
> The two look quite different on Mac IE5.1. The face
> in your image 
> looks like Courier, whereas on my Mac (which has
> Courier) it has 
> defaulted to Times.
> 
> Your source gives no idea how you specified the
> fonts, which makes it 
> more difficult to help you. However what I would
> advise is to:
> 
> 1. Use css to specify your fonts.
> 
> 2. Specify your font sizes in pixels in your style
> sheet.
> Without this the sizes will never match in different
> platforms.
> 
> 3. Use one of the following fonts: Verdana or Arial,
> which are 
> present on both Windows and Mac (you've more or less
> had it with 
> Unix/Linux). If you must use Courier (as it appears
> you have here) 
> you need to specify alternative names (Courier,
> "Courier New") in 
> your style sheet.
> 
> In addition, you use an iFrame, which is not
> supported by Netscape 
> and older Mac browsers and in any case gives you a
> fixed size which 
> results in problems if the text doesn't fit. You are
> better to use a 
> css div with a border.
> 
> If you don't know what I'm talking about, you need
> to learn some css eg:
> http://richinstyle.com/
> http://www.alistapart.com/stories/fear/fear1.html
>
http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/
> 
> And ignore the advice about not supporting pre-2000
> browsers. The 
> bioinformatics community has the oldest browsers
> anywhere. You need 
> to check that your work looks reasonable, at least,
> on the 5-year old 
> Netscape 4.x. and good on IE5 PC.
> 
> David Leader
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> G12 8QQ, UK
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> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:46:59 +0200 (CEST)
> From: "Martin Kucej" <kucej at fns.uniba.sk>
> To: <biodevelopers at bioinformatics.org>
> Subject: [Biodevelopers] Re: Fonts
> Reply-To: biodevelopers at bioinformatics.org
> 
> > The two look quite different on Mac IE5.1. The
> face in your image
> > looks like Courier, whereas on my Mac (which has
> Courier) it has
> > defaulted to Times.
> 
> Thanks, I feared that it can be a problem with Mac.
> 
> > 1. Use css to specify your fonts.
> 
> I do.
> 
> > 2. Specify your font sizes in pixels in your style
> sheet.
> 
> I do.
> 
> font-size: 12px;
> color:#003300;
> font-family: Courier New;
> text-decoration: underline;
> font-weight: normal;
> 
> I don't quite understand, why your MacIE5 choosed
> Times instead.
> Are you sure you don't have some defaulted font
> settings?
> 
> > 3. Use one of the following fonts: Verdana or
> Arial, which are
> > present on both Windows and Mac (you've more or
> less had it with
> > Unix/Linux). If you must use Courier (as it
> appears you have here) you
> > need to specify alternative names (Courier,
> "Courier New") in your
> > style sheet.
> 
> I can't use Arial, I need a font with fixed width,
> otherwise I could
> not guarantee that the 125x125 box would not
> "swell".
> 
> > In addition, you use an iFrame, which is not
> supported by Netscape and
> 
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