On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Geoff Hutchison wrote: > > v1.00 : this would be the "ready" program, everything would work > > through the GUI, and console would not be needed anymore > > I think that console output might be good for some uses as an option, > but certainly console input shouldn't be needed. I can imagine > redirecting some console output to a log file for other uses. Yep, certainly! I actually meant that we could write the outputs in some log files instead. > > (during 2003 probably). > > Having worked on a variety of development efforts, I think it's tough to > speculate on times. Who knows, maybe it could happen sooner if others > pitch in some time and effort? Maybe yes, maybe no. ;-) Yes, that's difficult, and I think the above is a quite pessimistic estimate. It could be sooner than that. Things can go either smoothly (say, 80% chance) or then in much much more difficult ways (say, 20 % chance) so the "average" estimate is quite meaningless. That's why I like to arrange enough time in my plans. :) > > Some time ago I also saw a webpage of a graphical CVS program front end, > > where the console and the GUI were nicely combined (I don't remember the > > program's name anymore). In the program a text widget was used as a > > console output window, and a text input widget was used as a console > > input > > window. Perhaps we could use something similar. > > Hmm. If you could find it (or a screenshot), that would be a great help. > I think I have a rough idea what you mean. Ok, I found it; it seems to be the "pharmacy": http://pharmacy.sourceforge.net/ > > complicated graphical interfaces (for example a command "add a > > disulphide > > bridge between cys 15 of chain 1 and cys 45 of chain 2" as a text-based > > command would be as simple as a dialog-box based system). > > Yes, some "scripting" would help some and would certainly make "plugins" > easier too. I can think of "set torsion between atoms 2 4 5 6 to 175 > degrees" or "set coords of atom 1 to (0.0, 1.0, 2.5)" and similar items > that would be very useful for me. Yep, these could be quite simple text commands like set tor 2 4 5 6 175.0 and set crd 1 0.0 1.0 2.5 GLADE is a great tool for building graphical interfaces, but still the above stuff would be 10x faster to do as text string commands... > > In the following days/weeks I try to write it as a table with following > > fields: > > > > - priority (1-5) > > - the idea described > > - who's working on this, if any > > - something else? > > > > The idea is that the list could be sorted by "priority" anytime and > > therefore one could see from the table what is likely to happen soon. > > Some of these ideas may depend on others, so for "something else," > dependencies comes to mind. Actually I already changed "something else" to "comments". I made the file using StarOffice spreadsheet program, and saved it as CSV (comma separated values) text (I try to check that also other spreadsheets can handle it). I would like that the list would be easily sortable by "priority". I think it works pretty much how I planned, and now I'm also experimenting with the BUGLIST file that I haven't really been able to maintain in the past. Happy Easter! Tommi