[Pipet Devel] GtkGLArea gets Python wrapper

[NNY]

sounds fine. i'll look into AMMP. i'm on standby. wake me when you want me
to do some coding :)

later



-greg


http://www.op.net/~finklesk/index.html



"The problem is not that the world is full of fools. The problem is that
lightning isn't being distributed right." - Mark Twain


On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, J.W. Bizzaro wrote:

> NNY wrote:
> > 
> > maybe i missed out on this before... i gather from this that you want
> > everything to be written in python?
> 
> Hi Greg.  The confusion comes from the fact that Loci's design has been changing
> so much, as has been the role of Python.  At one point I might have said we
> should strive for 100% Python, and use C only if we really have to.  But
> recently some of us, particularly Justin, Humberto and Alan, have put the CORBA
> (and other object models) option back on the table.  The greatest advantage of
> using these models is perhaps language-independence.  So, Python will not always
> be REQUIRED for Loci development.
> 
> Where does Python stand in the big picture now?  Well, it will always play a
> major role doing what it does extremely well: acting as a glue and scripting
> language for Loci.  We plan to make the major GUI components, such as the
> Workspace, in Python-GTK.  BUT, CORBA et al will allow us to make non-Python
> plug-ins/widgets/loci.
> 
> Depending on the uniqueness of the widget/locus, use of Python will be more or
> less a part of making one.  For example, if a widget/locus outputs to a
> GtkGLArea canvas, the widget/locus can call it via CORBA, and it probably won't
> need any Python wrappers.  But if the widget/locus needs a custom drawing area,
> we'll have to use Python to put it in the Workspace.
> 
> > if whatever you want me to do is to be
> > written in python, where can i find more info on python programming?
> 
> You'll find some links about learning Python-Gtk/Gnome at the PyG Tools page:
> 
>     http://bioinformatics.org/pygtools/
> 
> You can also check out the Python page:
> 
>     http://www.python.org/
> 
> A REALLY good book, if you want to go that route, is
> 
>     Learning Python
>     Mark Lutz and David Ascher
>     O'Reilly, 1999
>     ISBN 1-56592-464-9
> 
> But what was I hoping you could do for Loci?  After all, I asked you to help;
> you didn't volunteer.  We need a molecule modeling widget/locus for starters: a
> plug-in that can render 3D, OpenGL molecules.  Fortunately, we have two
> complementary projects to base this on.  Rob Harrison has much of the C code to
> display molecules.  His program is AMMP (Another Molecular Modeling Program):
> 
>     http://asterix.jci.tju.edu/ammp.html
> 
> And of course you have your mg^2 modeler and experience with OpenGL.  I think we
> can combine much of what we have into a widget/locus without a lot of new code. 
> Will this require Python?  I think we can either use the Python-GtkGLArea
> wrapper or make it all in C and then write our own wrapper.  But if we make a
> Python-based widget/locus, we'll have more reuse.
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> > 
> > -greg
> > 
> > http://www.op.net/~finklesk/index.html
> > 
> > "The problem is not that the world is full of fools. The problem is that
> > lightning isn't being distributed right." - Mark Twain
> > 
> > On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, J.W. Bizzaro wrote:
> > 
> > > Locians,
> > >
> > > Very good news:
> > >
> > > James Henstridge writes:
> > >
> > > > In other news, I have added a wrapper for gtkglarea to pygtk.  There are a
> > > > few examples in the examples/gl directory, including a translation of the
> > > > mesa gears demo.  To use it, you will also need the PyOpenGL package.
> > >
> > > GtkGLArea is the Gtk drawing area/widget for OpenGL:
> > >
> > >     http://www.student.oulu.fi/~jlof/gtkglarea/
> > >
> > > I wrote to James about making a Python wrapper for it, and well, he just did.
> > > The bottom line for us is that we can make Python-based widgets for Loci to
> > > render 3D models.  Very cool.  This brings us another step closer to integrating
> > > AMMP and MMTk.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > > Jeff
> 
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