I get the following error occasionally, for no apparent reason. And it seems a little odd that the error says, "it appears not to be started", when Piper should take care of starting the DL automagically. ----------------------------------------------------------------- jeff at dexter:jeff> piper jeff at dexter:jeff> Starting definition layer... Starting pied... Getting document... Could not contact the dl, it appears not to be started. The dl must be running before the Gnome user interface. jeff at dexter:jeff> ps -aux | grep python jeff 11279 18.6 10.3 10236 6528 pts/1 S 15:37 0:03 python startdl.py jeff 11282 0.0 10.3 10236 6528 pts/1 S 15:37 0:00 python startdl.py jeff 11283 0.0 10.3 10236 6528 pts/1 S 15:37 0:00 python startdl.py jeff 11284 0.0 10.3 10236 6528 pts/1 S 15:37 0:00 python startdl.py jeff 11285 0.0 10.3 10236 6528 pts/1 S 15:37 0:00 python startdl.py jeff 11291 0.0 10.3 10236 6528 pts/1 S 15:37 0:00 python startdl.py jeff 11292 0.0 10.3 10236 6528 pts/1 S 15:37 0:00 python startdl.py jeff 11293 0.0 10.3 10236 6528 pts/1 S 15:37 0:00 python startdl.py jeff 11294 0.0 10.3 10236 6528 pts/1 S 15:37 0:00 python startdl.py jeff at dexter:jeff> jeff at dexter:jeff> shutting down dl... Unhandled exception in thread: Traceback (innermost last): File "/var/tmp/python/python-root/usr/lib/python1.5/threading.py", line 392, in __bootstrap File "/var/tmp/python/python-root/usr/lib/python1.5/threading.py", line 401, in __delete AttributeError: 'None' object has no attribute 'acquire' ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff -- J.W. Bizzaro jeff at bioinformatics.org Director, Bioinformatics.org: The Open Lab http://bioinformatics.org/~jeff "Let the machine do the dirty work." -- Kernighan and Ritchie --