Locians, You are probably aware that the SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT aspect of the Loci project has become the "Piper project". The program known as "Loci" has in fact become the "Build-Time Subsystem" of Piper. Some nine months ago we merged with two other projects, the Generalized Messaging System (GMS) and Overflow, and these form the "Run-Time Subsystem" of Piper. GMS and Overflow actually make up the missing components of the orginally planned Loci. I was considering keeping the name "Loci" and using it as the name of a test case of Piper, using a bioinformatics subject. One difference still exists between the goals of Loci and Piper: Loci was intended to be a bioinformatics tool, while Piper is general purpose. And many people were on this list because of the interesting discussions about bioinformatics, not because they cared about the program itself. As for this mailing list, I want to keep it. As I mention above, there may yet be a "Loci project". But, I understand that a lot of time has passed, and the discussions just aren't here anymore. You may also be interested in the software itself (Piper) and not the bioinformatics. In any case, if you'd like to unsubscribe from this list, please visit the subscription page for Loci: http://bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/pipet-devel (you will need the password you got when you subscribed) If you would like to subscribe to the Piper list, please visit the subscription page for Piper: http://bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/pipet-devel And, if you would like get some bionformatics news from the source of the original Loci project discussions, please join Bioinformatics.org and subscribe to BI.O News. Cheers. Jeff -- J.W. Bizzaro jeff at bioinformatics.org Director, Bioinformatics.org: The Open Lab http://bioinformatics.org/~jeff "All those scientists--they're all alike! They say they're working for us, but what they really want is to rule the world!" -- Angry Villager, Young Frankenstein --