"J.W. Bizzaro" wrote: > > You guys might want to check out the web site: > > http://www.dloo.com/ > > It is strikingly similar to many aspects of Piper, except for the piping part > :-) Please read this: http://www.dloo.com/bluebox_developer/dev_model.html If that doesn't ring a bell, then you haven't read my long-winded explanations of how Loci was supposed to serve up a UI. If you understand what they're saying but never understood me, now you do :-) IOW, it's the same idea. I sent a message to the person who posted the announcement to Gnotices. They're stuff is supposedly GPL, LGPL or Apache (it's also vaporware at the moment, so don't bother trying to download it). My thoughts are that we can use BlueBox's XML API's, widgets sets, and even tools and save ourselves a TON of work on the UI side. Comments? Cheers. Jeff -- +----------------------------------+ | J.W. Bizzaro | | | | http://bioinformatics.org/~jeff/ | | | | BIOINFORMATICS.ORG | | The Open Lab | | | | http://bioinformatics.org/ | +----------------------------------+