Karl-Max Wagner wrote: > > I propose that everyone prepares this stuff in HTMLized form, > bundles it up and submits it for having it put up somewhere on > the piper site. This is much more comprehensive than spattering > it all about the net. We can put it in the docs directory of the Piper website. I actually have the whole website in CVS, so anyone with write access can contribute. Speaking of which (Nicolas also asked about CVS access), the best way to go about getting access (which means getting a shell account) is to join The Open Lab, our SourceForge-based project management system: http://bioinformatics.org Then, contact me (jeff at bioinformatics.org) and tell me that you are ready to be added to the project. When I add you, the system (admins actually) gives you a shell account. You'll then have CVS access. Right now, we have the following developers in the system (everyone should have a shell account): bizzaro bossekr chapmanb gears gmax jarl jmvalin theoriste https://bioinformatics.org/project/?group_id=19 > Chances are even that we fail. I could easily point to projects > that are not getting anywhere because they apparently stopped > understanding what they want to do. I like to think that the number one reason Free/Open projects fail is lost interest by the primary developers. Many of these guys just "move on", but it may be that they "stopped understanding what they want to do", as Karl-Max said, and that caused them to lose interest. > In any project, the concept phase is the most important one. > Mistakes in the concept phase are from difficult to impossible > to correct in subsequent development. I have seen that only too > often. Oh yes, I agree with that! Piper has spent years in the "concept phase", and it is probably still there. If we just plowed ahead from day one (assuming we didn't have to wait to find each other) and finished the project in a couple months, we would not have been able to include many of the concepts developed later. And they may not have ever been includable. But, how long is too long for the concept phase? ;-) Cheers. Jeff -- J.W. Bizzaro jeff at bioinformatics.org Director, Bioinformatics.org: The Open Lab http://bioinformatics.org/~jeff "All those scientists--they're all alike! They say they're working for us, but what they really want is to rule the world!" -- Angry Villager, Young Frankenstein --