My mail server blocked for a couple days, so I got all the messages in batch, in the wrong order... Are you still having problems with Overflow or is everything fine now? BTW, did I say you should track and remove any Overflow library that was previously installed elsewhere (like /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib)? If there's still a problem, tell me and I'll try to help. Jean-Marc P.S. Another thing you need to make sure of: The Overflow ABI changes frequently, so make sure that the Piper version you have is linked to the exact same version of Overflow that's installed. Otherwise, it's almost guarantied not to work. -- Jean-Marc Valin Universite de Sherbrooke - Genie Electrique valj01 at gel.usherb.ca