Hi, I got the new BL code communicating with the DL, which is working fine, but after the two layers have connected, the DL dies: 1 Starting definition layer... 2 Starting pied... 3 ior file: /home/jarl/piper_info/ior/dl2bl.ior 4 Wrote IOR file /home/jarl/piper_info/ior/uil2dl.ior 5 Getting document... 6 error: net LP already existed 7 error: net HP already existed 8 error: net LPC_DECOMP already existed 9 Connecting with the bl... 10 setting up a connection with a unique dl_id... 11 Tue Jul 17 11:59:18 2001 | 224 | Info | Accepted DL, created area 2 12 got dl_id... 13 Loading crash info... 14 no crash info 15 Adding a Network... 16 Document:ShowNetwork 17 Could not contact the dl, it appears not to be started. 18 The dl must be running before the Gnome user interface. I added the numbers in front manually, line 11 mains the BL got a corba call from the DL and all is well, line 12 is the DL saying it got response back from the BL. I tried tracing this by putting some print's in the dl sources, but found nothing because python is a bit confusing to me, could someone say something about this, Jeff? Brad? Any thoughts? Jarl