Hi folks, Concerning the recent Zope'n Piper thread, MHO is that it's not quite the same goal. But I'm a strong believer in component-based architectures, especially for free software projects where open-source and GPL code make reuse both possible and interesting. Hence if someone says that there are interesting similarities, it's definitely worth a look. I'm about to start some Zope development for a customer. I'll try to take a moment to look at the CMF at the same time and let you know about my findings. Cheers, -- Nicolas Chauvat http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)