Disclaimer: I am no BLAST expert, so some of the things I say below are just common(ly wrong) sense. At 09:59 PM 8/30/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Mensur Dlakic said: > > Hi, > > > > I have seen the same thing happen many times with different versions > of BLAST and > > don't think it's a bug. Intuitively, I think this is because in the > initial round > > the sequence is scored using the substitution matrix alone, while in > the second > > iteration the profile is already built based on that single sequence, and > > naturally it comes closer to the sequence itself than the substitution > matrix. > > >Would the difference in e value be more prounounced in the second itteration >if the first HSP had a low e value? I think so. I routinely set E-value lower than h-value for PSI-BLAST iterations and often see that E-values improve quite a lot for many sequences, though not necessarily below the h-value so they don't get included in the profile. >What additional information over the substitution matrix is used in the second >itteration when we only use a single sequence in the profile? > >Does it work like this... > >1 take query, make profile >2 query >3 get hsps, rebuild profile >4 query I think that in the first iteration no profile is made until some hits are found, even if it's only a hit to itself. >Is this a reason for including query sequences in the search space? (to track >the value of self hits)? I think that it has to be included, if for no other reason than only to have something for alignments. That said, I have seen that with some profiles the query sequence will stop being the best match after a few iterations, meaning that it'll move down the list a bit. Best, Mensur ========================================================================== | Mensur Dlakic, Ph.D. | Tel: (406) 994-2903 | | Department of Microbiology | Fax: (406) 994-4926 | | Montana State University | http://www.umich.edu/~mensur/ | | 109 Lewis Hall, P.O. Box 173520 | http://myprofile.cos.com/mensur | | Bozeman, MT 59717-3520 | E-mail: mdlakic at montana.edu | ==========================================================================