Ivo, Thanks for your clarifications. I'm glad we're on the same page. It just goes to show the dangers of using "BLAST" as a verb...even among people who (theoretically) understand what we're doing. Back to the G4 topic: --------------------- We've (the University of Minnesota) recently begun populating user labs with dual processor G4's (2GB RAM, 160GB of disk). I've been tasked to integrate these machines into my cluster environment using some sort of cycle stealing technology. I plan to make each lab into its own seperate group or flock. Each one will have a local file server to handle data issues, as well as to appease some of the political issues of setting up cycle stealing between departments. I've been in contact with the Condor team about an OS-X version, and they tell me "soon" on a "clipped" version, which means no checkpointing or job migration. This is fine for my BLAST rich environment, since (properly decomposed) these jobs are seconds to minutes of totally independant CPU time. I don't need checkpointing, I need more CPUs. I don't mind throwing away minutes of CPU time when someone logs in, if by doing so I can *double* the number of CPUs at my disposal. The other contender of which I'm aware is PBS-Pro's "floating license" system. I'll be interested to hear stories from other folks on this list as we bring up the various queuing environments under OS-X. We can't afford Platform's product at the moment (all our hardware is opportunistic, for budget reasons...so I certainly can't pay more per-node for a queuing environment) but I'd appreciate any other suggestions on free cycle stealing queuing environments. I plan to migrate jobs between the group/flocks using Globus. Sadly, things move at a glacial pace in the University environment. I won't have a chance to get on these machines in a serious way until late June at the earliest. At that point, I plan to actually incorporate them into my processing environment and do my benchmarks as a side effect of running production jobs on them. This is what happens to the priority of hardware evaluation when you have no control over the next round of purchases. :) I'm looking forward to Chris D.'s preview analysis, as well as other folks experiences with these machines. Thanks for listening. -Chris Dawn