CoreDate (was: [Biococoa-dev] WWDC2005)

[Alexander Griekspoor]

> I do agree with Alex that KVC should be fairly easy to add. I also do 
> like John's idea of sticking to 10.2 as much as possible, which should 
> be possible with KVC. I also know that there are some differences 
> which could get quite annoying, and that the 10.2 KVC is not as 
> consistent and usable as the KVC in 10.3... but that may be fixable 
> with some NSObject category. Anyway, after all these however/but, the 
> bottom line is: my opinion is we should try to implement KVC asap and 
> at the same time, stick to the 10.2 APIs as long as possible.
>
> Regarding other 10.3-sepcific APIs, here are the questions we should 
> answer (in particular Alex):
> * Alex, what APIs other than binding are you refering to? Can we 
> narrow down to just bindings the question of '10.2 vs 10.3'? Are there 
> any other critical super-useful 1.3-specifc APIs that we are going to 
> use? (e.g. NSIndexSet --> possible work-arounds)
> * Then, about bindings: are there really any use of bindings at the 
> framework level? The bindings would be in the app, right? We would 
> just have to be KVC-compliant in the framework. Do the bindings use 
> 10.2 deprecated methods when forced to?

Ok, sorry but I was indeed specifically referring to a (future) appkit 
side of the framework, not the foundation part (what we're working on 
right now). This originated from the discussion about a demo app with 
"webview" like view, that would really shine if it has binding support. 
You're perfectly right that for the foundation (model) part we can 
happily stick with 10.2 support, for bindings you indeed only need KVC 
basically (which we implement already). The rest is in the controller 
and view. I don't think that besides bindings there are many things we 
can't do without in 10.3, that I can think of (like NSXMLParser, there 
are plenty core foundation routines in 10.2 already).
The point was not to specifically start using all possible 10.3 
options, but just to make the point that 10.2 support is not that 
important anymore IMHO. Even if 5% sticks with it, that would not 
justify refraining to advance/optimize our framework. But again, as 
long as we can stick (if necessary with a bit of effort) to 10.2 
compliancy in the foundation, that's a big plus of course.

If we go for an Appkit part (views etc) I would go for 10.3 from the 
beginning though, primarily for the bindings part.

> NB: and yes, Koen, we should just be coding instead of chatting, for 
> God's sake!
Sorry, yes boss, I'll see what I can do ;-)
Alex


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                     ** Alexander Griekspoor **
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               The Netherlands Cancer Institute
               Department of Tumorbiology (H4)
          Plesmanlaan 121, 1066 CX, Amsterdam
                   Tel:  + 31 20 - 512 2023
                   Fax:  + 31 20 - 512 2029
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