Hello Chris, > Anyone using anything other than Tyan mainboards for dual-AMD cluster > systems? Anyone with happy/unhappy motherboard related issues with > AMD-based systems? > > I've got a client who is looking at a bunch of vendor proposals for > 2.8ghz dual-Xeon cluster systems and several for dual Athlon MP2600+ > systems. One vendor is even quoting MP2800+ cpus which do not > seem to be officially released yet in volume from AMD. heh. > > Personally I've never had problems with Tyan but the customer has had > Tyan-related mainboard issues in the past and in general > seems to feel a slight sense of unease in that 100% of the Athlon-based > proposals so far are using Tyan boards. They are wondering if there are any serious > non-Tyan mainboards available that are suitable for dual-AMD use in a > technical computing environment. I'm guessing choice is pretty limited. > > What are people here using? Any recommendations? Are the current > generation dual-AMD server boards from Tyan giving anyone problems? > > Booards that I've seen in some the proposals: > > Compute nodes: (Tyan S2722) & (Tyan S2466N-4M) > Head nodes : (Tyan S2469) & (Tyan S2466N-4M) Having sold both Intel and AMD in the past and now vendor neutral I'll tell you what I've seen. Tyan (my feelings here) has anyways been too fast to release a product and wait for "customers/end users" build then an error report. Then and only then do they make changes. This was seen on their first release of the dual Thunder K7. Today, I hear from customers now that are using them, and they are upset with very slow turn around time on repairs. Two alternatives are ASUS and Gigabyte, both have had good reviews from end users. Another choice would be Intel based, either true Intel with the new 7501 chipset or Supermicro. Intel offers a 3 year warranty on their motherbds. Supermicro one year. What I like about Supermicro is they test the heck out of everything, and "its solid". Moreover, Intel will tell you off the record that Supermicro is their biggest competitor. Reason, good quality, very aggressive pricing, and they build a complete solution. Meaning, CASE, POWER SUPPLY, and MOTHERBD...that's tested! Other consideration for Intel is Hyperthreading, and the new 7501 chipset will deliver at least 80% from the second cpu...depending on your code. Some people won't consider Intel because they don't want to rework their code. Understandable, however, those that do see the benefits of the new Xeon over Athlon. Some of our customers have seen close to 90% unitization from the second cpu with the 7501 chipset when their code is performance tuned. My .02. Cheers, Stephen Gaudet Wild Open Source Bedford, NH 03110 pH:603-488-1599 cell:603-498-1600 http://www.wildopensource.com