Hi Jeff > It's interesting that you consider Java to be more intimidating than C++. > > As for myself, I prefer C and PHP these days. PHP is not thought of > as an analytical language, but it's as capable as any other. Plus it > looks like C (making it simple to switch between them), and it even > runs on the command line. PHP is really nice too. I am not able to use much because my machine at work does not have it installed. And you got a good point that it is very similar to C. PHP is my preferred for web development, but I am trying to get into some Python frameworks now. Regarding C++ and Java, I started my programming life with VB, jumped to Pascal and seemed natural to jump to C/C++. I've tried Java so many times and I gave up a while ago. I have some kind of programming block with Java. Cheers Paulo