I note that Silicon in the (apparent) Tripos 5.2 force field gives odd results. For tetramethylsilane for example, one gets a strain energy of 393 and a C-Si bond length of 1.2A. Is it possible to check that a corruption of the Si parameters has not occurred? -- Henry Rzepa. +44 (020) 7594 5774 (Voice); +44 (0870) 132 3747 (eFax); rzepahs at mac.com (iChat) http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/ Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College London, SW7 2AZ, UK. (Voracious anti-spam filter in operation for received email. If expected reply not received, please phone/fax).