I've also tried Mesquite. IMHO Java is just not all it's cracked up to be for GUI's, at least on Linux: it just feels sluggish, klunky widgets, and so on (I think Mesquite uses AWT and not Swing, though). Has anyone ever come across a non-trivial Java app where the GUI feels right? I'd be interested to know. Also, while the Maddisons have expressed some interest in open source (I've asked them about it a couple of times), from what I can tell the Mesquite environment is pretty closed and restricted, and wedded to Java (no CORBA, etc). IMHO it's too bad the core libraries are in Java and not C (meaning no nice PyGTK interface ;) In summary, I think Mesquite was a good idea, but it's not something I see myself using in the future -- unlike Loci, which has the potential to be an excellent phylogenetic analysis backbone. Rick On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, J.W. Bizzaro wrote: > Jennifer wrote: > > > > I've started playing with a new program targeted to evolutionary > > biologists, called Mesquite. Wayne Maddison is one of the authors > > (UArizona I think). On first glance, the principals looked similar to > > LOCI, so I suggested he contact you. On a second glance, it really > > parallels LOCI, with the major exception being that Mesquite is written in > > java. I don't recall his web page offhand, but if you do a search on > > Maddison and Mesquite, you should find his page with little trouble. > [...] > > After playing a bit more, Mesquite is clearly designed for post-alignment > > anaysis of sequences :( Given the file format the authors are using, it > > would be difficult to change that. > > Gary wrote: > > > > You can find the web page at: > > > > http://spiders.arizona.edu/mesquite/mesquite.html > > > > From my first pass at the documentation, mesquite appears to be an > > evolulationary analysis development environment. It provides modules > > and libraries for phylogenetic manipulation. It has a modular design, so > > developers can glue generic utilities (charts, data editors, tree > > manipulators, etc.), and add their own specific functionality, into a > > specialized application for evolutionary analysis. It has elements that > > are similar to Loci/Vsh, but is not quite as abstracted, IMO. > > Jeff > -- > +----------------------------------+ > | J.W. Bizzaro | > | | > | http://bioinformatics.org/~jeff/ | > | | > | BIOINFORMATICS.ORG | > | The Open Lab | > | | > | http://bioinformatics.org/ | > +----------------------------------+ > > _______________________________________________ > pipet-devel maillist - pipet-devel at bioinformatics.org > http://bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/pipet-devel >