> Overflow does present the information in a very straight-forward way (more > like console vs. desktop). Since Loci (Pied) and Overflow use nearly all the > same graphical objects, I should be able to make a theme for Pied that looks a > lot more like Overflow. You may prefer that. > > But, Pied is meant to be either tied in with the desktop or be a desktop > itself (I even want a trash node). So, being graphical and pretty is > important to Pied. It helps draw the desktop user into using Piper too. > > Also, you may not have noticed this, but Pied allows 2 connected lines to be > bent and even dragged out of the way by the connecting point (the dot). I'm > not criticizing Overflow's GUI, but in the screenshot with the "spagetti > code", being able to bend lines may help neaten up the diagram. Of course, I really didn't put much effort in vflow, and I know it looks ugly. The only reason why there's no option to bend lines is because I'm too lazy! Also, I think we could associate icons to different nodes, like in Loci. Actually, the only thing I prefer in vflow is that the way to label the inputs/outputs is clearer (plus, I think I can pack more nodes per square inch!). Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Valin Universite de Sherbrooke - Genie Electrique valj01 at gel.usherb.ca