[Pipet Devel] IRC log on XML design/Overflow inclusion in Piper

J.W. Bizzaro bizzaro at geoserve.net
Mon Jun 12 03:50:09 EDT 2000

Jean-Marc Valin wrote:
> Here are examples of real networks I use. The first has 17 nodes, but I have
> some with around 50 nodes. I find the vflow layout a bit easier to follow (If I
> extrapolate from your mockup, the MAIN_LOOP and NNetSetTrainDBD nodes would be a
> real mess). It isn't as pretty as Loci, but maybe we can find something in the
> middle. Of course, my screenshots also prove that spaghetti code is still
> possible with Overflow/Piper :-)

Overflow does present the information in a very straight-forward way (more
like console vs. desktop).  Since Loci (Pied) and Overflow use nearly all the
same graphical objects, I should be able to make a theme for Pied that looks a
lot more like Overflow.  You may prefer that.

But, Pied is meant to be either tied in with the desktop or be a desktop
itself (I even want a trash node).  So, being graphical and pretty is
important to Pied.  It helps draw the desktop user into using Piper too.

Also, you may not have noticed this, but Pied allows 2 connected lines to be
bent and even dragged out of the way by the connecting point (the dot).  I'm
not criticizing Overflow's GUI, but in the screenshot with the "spagetti
code", being able to bend lines may help neaten up the diagram.

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