Here's a very telling quote: Last week, de Icaza said he's researched .Net extensively, likes it and believes having a version of .Net for Linux would be "good for Linux and Microsoft." I heard Miguel talk in Boston last year, and he unabashedly says that he likes and copies Microsoft programs for Gnome. Personally, I think that both GNOME and KDE are much too much like Windows AND EACH OTHER. Here's a good question: Is it possible to create an "open-source Linux-based clone" of a Windows-centric system/standard dictated by "embrace, extend, extinguish" Microsoft? Cheers. Jeff -- J.W. Bizzaro jeff at bioinformatics.org Director, Bioinformatics.org http://bioinformatics.org/~jeff "As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously." -- Benjamin Franklin --