Pipers, The future of Piper is uncertain, as we have had *a lot* of trouble attracting contributors. As for myself, I have been spending time with more fruitful projects, such as my organization (Bioinformatics.Org) and my education (I have about a year left for a Ph.D. in biochemistry). I've also noticed *many* projects that are something like Piper, including 2 that we have hosted at Bioinformatics.Org: Systems Biology Workbench (SBW): http://bioinformatics.org/sbw/ FreeMol: http://bioinformatics.org/freemol/ ISYS and OpenBSA (hosted elsewhere) are similar too and related to bioinformatics. The funny thing is, Bioinformatics.Org had a conference in Arizona, and almost every talk had something to do with "integrating disparate computing resources." I guess this is no longer such a novel idea, probably more *timely* than anything. Personally, I am seriously considering taking what I have written for the UIL (the GUI of Piper) and integrating it with FreeMol, possibly, and having it limited to a single website (integrating tools at one location and providing a Web interface for doing that--I'd have to switch the GNOME canvas for who-knows, maybe imagemaps), e.g., at Bioinformatics.Org. But, for a distributed system using a traditional GUI, I'll throw my support (whatever it's worth) behind SBW. My interests in developing an *Internet distributed* system have waned, as I think leading such a project requires a background in CS. Look to hear more about the direction of Piper later. Cheers. Jeff Luca.Toldo at merck.de wrote: > > dear pipers, > compliments for your activities. I certainly think that the way you are > approaching the complex task of scalable biocomputing > is novel, however I do not understand few things: > > - network-wide communication: CORBA ? > I have the impression that CORBA has been chosen as architecture to connect > components across different machines. > Unfortunately, this is not much "firewall friendly", right ? Any comments > about the use of Piper across secure environments ? > > - semantics ? > I miss the point about how to define the semantics of the various > processing elements across and within networks. > Any plan to use DAML-S ? > > I am preparing a talk that I will give at NETTAB02, and have to rush > finishing up the paper by friday. If you could drop me a line > or two about the above topics, I will be happy to mention PIPER at that > conference. > > Compliments anyhow > and regards > luca > > p.s. the comments here shall be interpreted in constructive way, please. No > flame, only wish to understand. > > This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or > otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, > you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to > any other person. If you have received this transmission in error, please > notify the sender immediately and delete the message and any attachment > from your system. > Merck does not accept liability for any omissions or errors in this > message which may arise as a result of E-Mail-transmission or for damages > resulting from any unauthorized changes of the content of this message and > any attachment thereto. Merck does not guarantee that this message is free > of viruses and does not accept liability for any damages caused by any > virus transmitted therewith. -- J.W. Bizzaro jeff at bioinformatics.org Director, Bioinformatics.Org http://bioinformatics.org/~jeff "As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously." -- Benjamin Franklin --