Looks nice -- but if you have a slow connection, the huge logo and the changing background can be really annoying. I prefer simple and fast web pages (e.g. www.python.org). Carlos On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Gary Van Domselaar wrote: Locians, I have a template page for the Loci pages ready for viewing http://gvd.v-wave.com/loci Its JUST a template page, so not all the links work, and I'm trying to get a couple of bugs out. Let me tell you, trying to use style sheets for positioning is a waste of time like you would not believe! So I have given up and used tables for positioning. Here is a small run down of the web page design 1. Each web page has a header file that is 'included' by php -- thats the logo. 2. The web page grabs a random background each time you reload -- very trippy! 3. Then there is a bunch of table formatting to prepare for the main content and the table of contents. 4. The file php 'includes' a trailer as well - so far just a button to the propaganda.themes page, but i'll probably put an apache logo, and maybe a loci button ! Everyone that has seen the template pages so far says they are very nice. The lambda logo is a hit with everyone-- it's basically ripped off from half-life (rocking video game) which is in turn ripped off from Aphex Twin (ambient music). You can also go to http://gvd.v-wave.com/ and there is a template page for the open lab there too, but it's no different than the loci page for all practical purposes. For fun you can navigate to the loci page from the tol main page by clicking Development projects, then The Loci Project. From there you can go the Loci development page or the GNU Lesser Public Licence link--but not all of these pages are 'sync'd yet--hopefully before the end of the week! I await your comments! --Gary =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gary Van Domselaar gvd at redpoll.pharmacy.ualberta.ca Faculty of Pharmacy Phone: (780) 492-4493 University of Alberta FAX: (780) 492-5305 Edmonton, Alberta, Canada _______________________________________________ pipet-devel maillist - pipet-devel at bioinformatics.org http://bioinformatics.org/mailman/listinfo/pipet-devel