but Cluster Knoppix is so much more tempting for the wavering masses not sure if they're ready to commit the resources. Part of being open is being accessible after all. I know it's an unreasonable whine, but what the heck, the forum was empty and I thought I'd start the party. I suppose I should just get the iso and look at it, but can you tell me if the biobrew packages per se are kept in a form separate from the rock distros. Thanks Ahfoo